da INTERVIEW luglio 2004
intervista di Ingrid Sischy
Elton John's tip sheet: where have all the flowers gone?
INGRID SISCHY: So, Elton, it's July, and we're four months away
from the presidential election in America. But amazingly, given what's
going on in the world right now, there don't seem to be many protest or
political songs that really address the moment. People like Nina Simone
and John Lennon matter so much to every generation because when events
like the civil fights movement and the war in Vietnam were happening,
they went out on a limb for what they believed, in both their lives and
in their music; and it resonated all over the country. Why aren't we
seeing that sort of collective response now?
ELTON JOHN: Surprisingly, it seems to be a very apathetic age in
America. You know, during Vietnam I played Kent State University,
shortly after the shootings and subsequent riots there in 1970. People
were taking to the streets. With the war in Iraq and all that's gone on
with it, that's not happening--yet. I don't know why.
IS: It was during the Vietnam War that popular music really began
to take on political issues in an explicit way, with people like Bob
Dylan and Joan Baez emerging as voices for that era. A few albums have
come out recently by artists who have always spoken out, but where are
the new ones? Is there not a space in the zeitgeist right now for new
voices to come forward?
EJ: Of course. But hardly any are doing it, and one reason might be
that they are frightened by the current administration's bullying
tactics when it comes to free speech. There was a moment about a year
ago when you couldn't say a word about anything in this country for
fear of your career being shot down by people saying that you are
un-American. On the one hand, you have someone like Toby Keith, who has
come out and been very supportive of the Bush administration and the
war in Iraq--which is okay because America is a democracy and Toby
Keith is entitled to say what he thinks and feels. But on the other
hand, the Dixie Chicks got shot down in flames last year for
criticizing the president. They were treated like they were being
un-American, when in fact they have every right to say whatever they
want about him because he's freely elected, and therefore accountable.
There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now that is deadly.
Everyone is too career-conscious. They're all too scared. As for the
FCC, its watchdogging has already begun a new era of censorship in the
country. Things have changed. I don't know if there's been a time when
the fear factor has played such an important role in America since
McCarthyism in the 1950s as it does right now. But you don't have
people stepping up to the plate. Look at the 1960s and all the talent
that came out of that era. People like Bob Dylan, Nina Simone, the
Beatles, and Pete Seeger were constantly writing and talking about what
was going on. That's not happening right now. As of this spring, there
have been virtually no anti-war concerts--or anti-war songs that catch
on, for that matter.
Is: Being a musician in America at the moment seems to he more
about having a career than about making a difference. Is that fight?
EJ: Well, if you plan on having a career, then you won't end up
having one. You know, there are great musicians around. You've got
someone like Joss Stone who is so young and so talented and has the
world at her feet. That's exciting. But there are so many middle
managers involved who are all afraid for their jobs. When I was
younger, I never had a publicist. Now there are not only publicists,
but lawyers and managers and agents, and often they're all reporting to
the record company instead of the artist. When I first came to America,
I had a great relationship with my record company. They knew everything
about what I was up to, and I knew all the people who ran the company.
They were like friends who would go to bat for you. I still have that
with my record company in Europe, but now, in America, they've just
sort of become faceless. I find that disheartening, because it would be
nice to have some sort of dialogue.
IS: If we're not yet hearing new protest songs that connect, then what are you hearing?
EJ: Strangely enough, I'm hearing a lot of joy. My favorite album of
the moment is by the Scissor Sisters [Scissor Sisters, Universal], and
it is the most joyous record from start to finish that I've heard in a
while. It's a great pop record, a real 1970s-influenced album--David
Bowie, Pink Floyd, the Bee Gees, myself, it's all in there. I put it on
first thing in the morning because it just makes me smile. And then
there's Diana Krall's latest album, The Girl in the Other Room [Verve].
It's the best album she's ever made, because she's started to write her
own material and is diverting from the standards she did on her
previous albums. And by choosing to record songs by Joni Mitchell and
Tom Waits--which she also does on this album, in her own inimitable
way--she showcases her prowess on the piano and her ability to make a
lyric her own. Another incredibly joyous record is by the Scottish rock
band Franz Ferdinand [Franz Ferdinand, Epic]. It reminds me of mid-'70s
stuff, very melodic and upbeat. JC Chasez's album, Schizophrenic
[Jive], is another terrific pop record, sort of like an old Prince or
George Michael album. He was going to launch Schizophrenic back in
February with a performance at the Pro Bowl in Hawaii, but because of
Justin Timberlake's involvement with the whole Janet Jackson fiasco,
his slot was canceled. He was very angry about it, and he had every
right to be.
IS: Last question: In this time when we so desperately need artists
to step up to the plate, who do you think, among the younger artists,
can rouse the collective?
EJ: Anyone of any generation, really. But I would be interested to
hear someone like Jack White or Ryan Adams do a protest song, or
something that addresses the moment. Jack is so clever and really has
his finger on the pulse, and I'm excited whenever Ryan does anything.
But wherever it comes from, we need to hear it now.