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Nigel Olsson Reflects on 50 Years of Playing Drums for Elton John
Olsson backed Elton John on his first album back in 1969 and he’ll be behind the kit for his Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour
di Andy Greene
Elton John
was just a shy, gawky 22-year-old struggling pianist/songwriter when
drummer Nigel Olsson first laid eyes on him. It was early 1969 and John
was a staff songwriter for Dick James’ DJM Records, desperately trying
to write songs for the likes of Lulu, Roger Cook and the Eurovision
Song Contest along with his lyricist Bernie Taupin. “I would hang
around the Dick James office,” recalls Olsson. “And if Elton was
cutting a demo and needed a drummer he’d say to me, ‘Hey, would you
come back into the studio and help me out with a couple of things?'”
Those off-the-cuff
demos sparked a five-decade relationship. Olsson has played on many of
Elton’s most enduring albums — including Honky Château, Goodbye Yellow
Brick Road, Caribou, Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy, Too
Low For Zero, Songs From the West Coast and many, many others — in
addition to more than 2,000 concerts.
As he prepares for
Elton John’s upcoming Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour (kicking off
September 8th in Allentown, Pennsylvania) we spoke to Olsson about his
long tenure in Elton’s band, what fans can expect from the upcoming
tour and the time he taught Elton how to order a salad in America.
You
were with Elton a couple of years before he had any real success.
What’s your first memory of hearing an Elton/Bernie original and
thinking they’d really come up with something special?
That’s going back.
I think it was a song called “Lady What’s Tomorrow” that we cut as a
demo. There were a few other things we did, like “Turn to Me,” but the
real stuff started to happen when we did the second album [1970’s Elton
John]. He had Empty Sky before that and then the next one came out, and
it had “Your Song” on it. The record company wanted him to play a
showcase at this place called the Roundhouse, which was a big club in
London. Elton asked [bassist] Dee [Murray] and myself if we were
interested in helping out with that show, doing a few songs off the new
record.
At the time, I was
in a band called Uriah Heep. I’d done about nine shows with them. But
then we went into Dick James’ studio to rehearse for this Elton show.
Within the first eight bars of the first song that we played together,
I knew that this was the music that I wanted to be playing. It had so
much feeling and was so original. It was this surge of energy that told
me, “Hey, this is what I want to do.” We went down very well at the
show. In fact, I think we supported the Who. We kinda looked at each
afterwards and said, “Well, maybe we should put a band together.”
That’s basically how it started.
The
setup back then was just Elton on piano and vocals, Dee on bass and you
on drums. There was no guitarist or anything. Whose idea was that? It
made for a very unique sound.
It just kind of
happened that way. Before we came to America we did a few gigs in
England, just colleges and stuff. But when we came here, to get the
sound of that particular album, which was so orchestral with the Paul
Buckmaster string arrangements, Dee had this knack of making his bass
sound like cellos and stuff like that. In those days, there was no
effects or anything like that we could use on a stage besides maybe a
wah-wah pedal. But Dee had this knack for filling out that kind of
sound. So yeah, people were pretty amazed when it was just us doing
“Burn Down the Mission” and stuff like that. It was amazing.
Was the 18-minute version of “Burn Down the Mission” on the 17-11-70 live album rehearsed or just totally improvised?
That was
improvised. That was a jam, basically. When I listen to it now I think,
“What the hell were we thinking?” It just went from one thing to
another, but it flowed so well together. That particular radio show was
live, so it went out as we were doing it.
The
Troubadour show where Elton first played to a U.S. audience has
obviously become incredibly legendary. Was it as magical in the room
that night as the lore suggests?
Oh, yeah. It was
just insane. We were these lads from England that came over and it was
kind of a one-off. Dick James told us, “OK, boys, I’m going to send you
to America and this is going to be make-it-or-break-it. If you pull it
off, great. But if you don’t, I can get you a job at the shoe shop here
on Oxford Street” [laughs]. And, well, we obviously never got the job
at the shoe shop, so I guess we did good.
It was magical
because Dee and I had been over here with the Spencer Davis Group. In
fact, I was involved with the last tour that Spencer Davis ever did as
the Spencer Davis Group. That is where I first met Dee. When we came
over, Dee and I would teach Elton how different it was in the States,
even down to silly things like ordering a chef’s salad. We’d say to
him, “You’re going to get a whole plate of salad.” That’s because in
England the portions are very small.
It was great taking
Elton around the Sunset Strip and all the places you heard about in the
early days of the movement, so to speak. Then it was fun doing that
first gig at the Troubadour here in L.A. It was magical, but it also
frightened us to death. We looked into the audience and there’s Neil
Diamond sitting in the first row. I think Stephen Stills was there, as
was Leon Russell. I even think Diana Ross was sitting there for some
reason. I don’t know, but it was packed to the rafters and we were so
nervous about it. But once we cranked it up it was amazing, just
amazing.
Why were you only on a single song each on the early albums?
Well, because I was
doing other stuff. I was with Uriah Heep. I also went away to rehearse
with this new band. This guy called me and asked if I’d be interested
in just working with this band for a couple of months to try and write
songs, see how they turned out and then maybe put a record together.
But I was a road dog. I wanted to be on the road. I didn’t want to be
cooped up in the country. So I went back to London, and that group I
was rehearsing with actually turned out to be Supertramp [laughs]. Go
figure. They were putting together great songs, but it just wasn’t my
thing. I was probably doing that when Elton was putting together that
whole thing together with Gus [Dudgeon] and Paul Buckmaster.
Do you recall making “Amoreena”? That’s the one Tumblewood Connection song you do play on.
Yes, we did that at
Olympic Studios I think. That was one of the first songs Dee and I did
for the Elton records. It was so different. Nobody said to each other,
“Oh, you should play like this” or “You should play like that.”
Everybody had their own input. It was the same thing in the later days
when we went to the studio right outside Paris or when we went to
Caribou Ranch in Colorado. That magic of our band was, and still is
now, that we’re on the same wavelength. We all know exactly where
everyone is going. It comes out especially on the early records because
it was so new and refreshing. We had a great time together. We were a
band of brothers.
The
sheer number of great songs you guys churned out in the early 1970s is
just staggering. Did it stun you that everything was happening so
quickly?
It was magic. But
we had so much going on. We could come and do a tour and then go back
in the studio to do another album and then come back out, play our
earlier songs and then a few ones from the unreleased album. We were
always an album ahead when we toured. It happened so quickly for us, we
didn’t have time to sit down and think, “Wow, we’re doing really good.”
And all of this was in America. We weren’t heard of in England at the
time.
Describe
the process Elton uses to write a song. I’ve heard him talk about
getting lyrics from Bernie, sitting down at the piano before he’s even
read them and then just coming up with a melody there on the spot as he
reads them.
Well, he does sit
down and he does have lyrics that Bernie has sent him. In the early
days, Bernie was in the studio even though he had nothing to do with
the melodies or anything like that. But Elton would sit down and go
through the lyric sheets, and he’d go through words to see if the song
should be midtempo or uptempo. Then he would just start playing round
with different chords and it would suddenly come together.
Some of the song
were written … I think “Daniel” was written in about 15 minutes. It was
that magical. We would sit down for breakfast and he’d go around on the
piano, have the song and then we’d go into the studio. The studio was
already set up with sounds and everything. We just had to go sit down
and play. We’d hear him inventing the song. Then we’d all get on the
same wavelength. Most of the big records happened in probably no more
than four takes. Some of them happened on the first take. We were there
from the beginning.
I play to the
lyrics and the low-end of the piano. And I describe myself as a
descriptive drummer. I will play to the lyrics. So it’s basically what
you leave out. If there’s a break in a song, in some songs you expect
this huge drum solo to come out. I’ll leave that out so it’s all the
anticipation. That’s my style of playing and it’s worked out well for
me.
Do you recall the creation of “Funeral For a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding”?
I remember it being
a very involved recording because of it being two songs in one. To get
my particular drum sound, we always loved to use a very, very large
room with high ceilings so we could put drums close to the microphone.
Then we’d have what we call ambient mics way, way up in the ceiling as
far away from the drum kit as possible. That gives you a natural
ambiance and a little bit of a delay that makes the drums sound larger.
That’s how I get my drum sound.
So we put those
songs together, but we didn’t like to do edits because it doesn’t flow
correctly. But that particular song was long and involved, so we had to
play it a few times to get the different segments together.
There was one song
we recorded at Caribou, which is “We All Fall in Love Sometimes” into
“Curtains.” At the end of “We All Fall in Love Sometimes” we went into
“Curtains,” which is a whole different tempo and everything. And we
were shitting it because we didn’t want to stop and do an edit. So we
had to do that whole song one time the whole way through. I remember
thinking, “Oh God, we’re almost there to where we have to stop and go
way, way down and then come back in with the ‘Curtains’ deal.” It was
pretty intense, but the magic happened and there it was. It was larger
than life. I still love playing that song.
I always get a chill when he sings, “We wrote it and I played it/Something happened it’s so strange this feeling.”
I do too, still.
And what I was saying earlier about me being a descriptive drummer.
There’s a line in that song “trickled down the sleepy subway trains.” I
do this thing on the cymbals that sounds like rain. It’s just little
things that come to you while you’re playing to these amazing lyrics.
Also, the sound of the piano is just amazing. I mean, I’m blessed to
even be involved in any of that stuff and it’s been now almost 50 years
or something like that.
So
you guys make Captain Fantastic, one of your true masterpieces, and
then Elton dumps you and the rest of the band. How did you hear that
was happening?
I just got a phone
call from someone in the office saying that he wanted to go in a
different direction and that was it. I soldiered on. I had my own
career. And I’m happy that we’re all back together and it’s going so
well.
At the time, though, were you heartbroken?
Um … yeah. But, you know, you have to get over these things. Life goes on.
There were
obviously other factors at work, but it’s interesting to note that the
second he got rid of your guys his sales started to plummet.
I have no clue. That’s a question you should ask him.
You went solo and had a hit with “Dancin’ Shoes” in 1978. Did that take you by surprise?
Yeah. It was
brilliant. We’d actually done a song before that at Caribou Ranch with
the whole band called “Only One Woman,” which was a Bee Gees song they
wrote for a band in America called Marbles. I loved that song. When we
were up at Caribou we had some downtime and I said, “Hey, listen, can I
cut this song? I love it.” The record company liked it and we put it
out as a single and it did very well in the States. Then when I went
out on my own, we did “Dancin’ Shoes” when I joined Bang Records out of
Atlanta.
That was a good
record for me. Then we did another couple of songs, like “A Little Bit
of Soap.” And so I had my own success, but I was freaked out because
Dee wanted to go out and tour and I didn’t want to be the frontman.
You do have a very good voice.
Well, thank you. I
love to sing. I love doing backgrounds and it was amazing that my solo
records took off. I still get lots of fans asking why I don’t put one
of those in the set, but it’s a whole different segment of my life.
It’s just a joy to have done something away from the band and had my
own kind of success story.
But you never saw yourself as a possible pop star or anything?
No, no, no, no. I
did a couple of TV things. I think I did four [episodes of American
Bandstand] and became really good friends with Dick Clark. He said to
me, “You need to go on the road.” I said, “I’m just too nervous for
that.”
How did you reconnect with Elton in the early 1980s and rejoin the band?
I got a call from
[guitarist] Davey [Johnstone], who said, “Will you come back and do
some background vocals for an album?” And I said, “Yeah, I’ll be
there.” Then suddenly I got a call that said, “Will you come back and
play?” I said, “Yeah, tell me where I need to be.” And that was it. We
started over again.
How did it feel to step back behind the kit at your first show back?
It was great. It
was great to be back to the joy and the magic of this music. Being a
part of it, being a part of musical history, to me, is just
unbelievable. When we play shows now, you see old grandmas and grandpas
and then their grandkids. We see little kids in the front row singing
along to “Crocodile Rock” and other songs that are almost 50 years old.
My job — especially nowadays and the pretty frightening times we live
in — is to make people smile and have a good time and forget all the
bullshit in the world. I count myself very, very blessed to be able to
do that.
Were you and Dee Murray close?
Very close. We were
all brothers. In fact, we married twins. I married my first wife and
then he married her sister a few years later. So it was basically a big
family. We worked really, really well together. I think about him all
the time. We all actually do. His name comes up all the time.
If he was still alive, do you think he’d still be in the band?
I’m sure he would, yeah.
Why did you leave again after Breaking Hearts in 1984?
I went motor
racing. I’d always been a motor-racing freak. I’m a car maniac. A
friend of mine from Ferrari had called me up and said, “Why don’t you
come down? We’re testing a new car at this famous race track 60 miles
north of L.A.” I went out there and he wanted me to drive this car
because I’d done all the racing schools and got my Super Licence. I
loved the car, loved the way it handled. He said to me, “Man, you did
some good times. Would be interested in bringing a series called the
Ferrari Challenge to the States?” That’s kind of like the race of
champions where every car is identical, so it was a competition about
driving rather than the power of the car. I did that for for years.
Then I went back with the band and made more music.
You kept a very low profile in the Nineties. Were you mainly involved with car racing?
Yeah. I also did
some sessions with people like Rod Stewart, Linda Ronstadt and Neil
Diamond. I was on the session circuit here in L.A.
How did you wind up back with the Elton John band in 2001?
I got a call from
Davey again. He said, “We’re doing a tour. Do you want to be involved?”
I said, “Yep. Tell me where to be.” And there I was.
You
got back right in time for Songs From the West Coast. It’s funny you
always come back just when they’re about to make something great.
Well, I appreciate
you saying that. That’s just the magic of us. It’s just magic and I’m
blessed. It’s an amazing feeling. I’m a very happy man.
You came back 17 years ago and just didn’t leave. What changed this time to allow it to just become permanent?
That’s just the way
it should be. It’s the old and the new put together. We’re still making
great records. Bernie is still writing great lyrics. There’s no way to
explain it. It just happens that way. It’s a wonderful feeling that
we’re still selling out football stadiums. And this tour is going to be
amazing. It’s a three-year tour and who knows what’ll happen after
this. I don’t know. I just go day-by-day.
You turn 70 next year. How do you stay in shape since your job is so physically demanding?
I take care of
myself, especially when I’m on the road. I like to swim. I don’t work
out on treadmills or anything, but I do look out for what I’m eating. I
don’t drink anymore. I take vitamins. I have a good deal of people
looking out for me.
You wear gloves when you drum. Why is that?
It’s actually to
cut down in blisters and callouses. I’m sponsored by FootJoy golf
gloves. They are very, very thin leather so I can feel the sticks. They
give me more grip and it helps my hands not come into pieces.
Are you in rehearsals right now for the farewell tour?
We’re starting next Wednesday.
Is the show going to be very different than the last time you went out and played arenas?
It’s gonna be an
extravaganza, an absolute extravaganza, but I can’t give it away to
you. But imagine all these years and all these different phases that
we’ve gone through. It’s gonna be amazing. There’s also a lot of
different stuff that I don’t know what’s happening until I get there. I
won’t see the stage until a few days before we started. I can’t imagine
how it’s going to be, but I’m sure it’ll be outrageous.
Are you going to play any songs you haven’t done in a while? The fans would love some surprises.
Right now we’re
sorting through songs because, obviously, there’s so many. It’s going
to be a tough decision. I played on almost 200 songs. There’s much to
choose from. So I think what we might do is maybe go with two different
sets. We don’t have to play the same set everywhere. If we’re playing
two or three nights at one place, we could swap the songs out a little
bit. But that’s all in the planning stage right now. I’m not involved
until we get to rehearsal and we have a chat.
You’ll be 72 when this tour ends. Do you think about retirement at all?
No, I’ll never
leave the road. I don’t know what I’m going to do when this ends.
Hopefully I’ll still be traveling. I’m still in the car business, but
I’m a little too old to do proper racing. But I’m a certified
instructor. Maybe I’ll go do that. But I really don’t know. I wanna
stay with it. I want to keep playing.
That’s
great. I love watching you play an old song with Elton and realizing
that you played on the original recording. You don’t get that a lot
these days.
That’s how it should be. It would be a joy if
Dee, Davey, Ray Cooper and myself would be put into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. I think we deserve it. We’ve done so much. It’s insane.
We should be there.
Do you feel overlooked?
No. And I don’t mind that part because I’m part of the whole magical
situation. I know what we’ve done and what I’ve put into it. It’s not
that I should be on this pedestal. It doesn’t bother me one bit. I’m
just happy to be there and to do what I’m doing. And I’ll do it for as
long as I can.
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